Ben interviews Robert Garcia, an activist an organizer in East Central Illinois. Garcia was in Louisville at the protests that happened after the jury found that the police were not guilty for the killing of Breonna Taylor. Only one of the three officers involved was indicted and it was for first degree wanton endangerment. Garcia describes what the scene was like in Louisville was like which included him and a group of protesters being held up in a church for hours while the police waited outside. Garcia talks about what he hopes to see in the future in terms of police reform and where he hopes to see the movement go in the future including beyond the election in November.