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This week on Pay Attention To Me, Dené is in Colorado spending time with Amy (Episode 24) and your new best friend, Saul! He shares his mental wellness journey from recognizing when he needed help, to training in Ju Jitsu as an outlet, then joining a team where he used his skills to develop a self defense as therapy class for sexual assault survivors. He discusses his creative side as a poet, writer, actor, photographer, and more. They also chat about traveling, preventative therapy, and personal development. Thanks for listening! XOXO

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