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Tonight is a FIRST for Cinder & Hops! Two big changes, that are only obvious if you are watching... Elizabeth, the guest, is there IN HOUSE with us! Another fun aspect is that my beautiful wife is an extra special guest! We talk about how Christians have lost much of the imagination that used to be a part of our daily understanding. Enjoy the conversation, and forgive me for the change in audio halfway through. This is the second time we attempted this episode, and even this one had a number of issues to work through. The audio was due to the mic messing up halfway through, without me realizing... Regardless though, enjoy the chat!

I thoroughly enjoyed this chat, and hope you will too! We have this conversation recorded in a video as well - available on Facebook and YouTube! Be sure to follow us on social media (FB, IG) and give us a 5 star (*****) review! As always, if you have any epiphanies, comments, disagreements, or thoughts hit us up on social media or email me at cinderandhops@gmail.com!