PART ONE -- Host Bianca McCall invites two women, having lived experiences with substance abuse and addiction; to discuss the relationship between Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACES) and suicidal risk, identifying substance abuse as a non-suicidal and self-injurious behavior (NSSI). The trio discuss Secondary Traumatic Stress Disorder (STSD), and the risks for someone who is experiencing STSD, to abuse substances as a primary coping modal.