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Elia @eliaeinhorn was someone I immediately knew I wanted on the show. My exploration at this moment is all around communication. How should we communicate. So pre-quar, I was already thinking about podcasts...what should they be? We've clearly crossed the line where they've gone mainstream, but now it's a lot of noise. So how do we do it well? And what's making stuff going to be like in the new either post-quar or continuous semi-quar world? How are we going to integrate these finally firm lines that have been drawn on inequality? So much. I trust Elia to distill this as much as anyone. He's a learner, a listener. He's very sensitive, empathetic. Really knows how to talk to someone in such a way as to draw the beautiful ideas out of them. So he's a friend. And I wanted to ask him these questions on the show, work it out live. If you want my Kanye feelings, this is a good episode to listen to. Check out Elia on Pitchfork, Talkhouse, Sonos Radio and more.