The Rev. Matt Rhodes is joined in this episode by The Rev. Nadia Bolz-Weber, Lutheran pastor, New York Times bestselling author, and speaker and podcaster. Nadia and Matt discuss clergy fatigue and lament, her new podcast ("The Confessional"), and how her version of Jesus' Beatitudes may be a guide for what the Church might do in a post-pandemic world. This conversation was recorded on Wednesday, July 1, 2020.
