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This is a conversation with the one and only Doland White.

Doland and I met while working at the same company a few years ago.. he was the CEO and I was just one of the web development grunts. ;)  ...but no, we built their WordPress business together and he taught me a lot as I helped build the themes and a team of designers and developers.

He's been involved with technology in some shape or form for over 3 decades.  He worked at IBM, 11 years at Novell, Symantec.. and other great companies.  He started as a programmer, made his way into management and beyond.  There is SO MUCH to learn from him!

In this episode we dig into the business of building a business.  How to keep things simple in the beginning, how to put things in place so you don't get overwhelmed, growth vs scaling and so much more!