On this episode, I get the opportunity to speak with my man John Lullen. The thing that made this episode so fun and valuable was the fact that I got to speak with someone is excelling in an organization that doesn't have too many black leaders, which we get into in the podcast. So getting his perspective on what makes him different and has allowed him to continue to move up in corporate america is definitely something that everyone should listen to. We talk about the legacy he wants to leave behind, the lessons he wants to share with his son, and so much more. Please sit back, get your notepads ready, and enjoy my conversation with John Lullen.