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This was a totally spontaneous Conversation had with DezaRay who is a transracial adoptee. I have followed her for years on Instagram, but recently she has joined Adopteetok which is to say the adoption community on Tiktok of adoptees, foster care survivors, first parents, and other advocates who spend their time and energy to bring awareness to all the complexities and ethical issues of infant adoption, transracial adoption, foster to adopt, international adoption, kinship adoption, open adoptions, closed adoptions... and so on. 

DezaRay is the Outspoken adoptee and I am so glad she is. We talked about the video she made last week where someone complained about how much it costs to adopt a baby, being a transracial adoptee growing up in Utah, and so much more. 

Anytime an adoptee gets to talk with another adoptee, it is kind of like talking an old friend, talking to DezaRay was a lot like that for me especially since I see her face almost every day, and that's probably why this episode is over 2 hours long. oops. 

I hope you will listen to the whole episode even if it is in chunks. This was a great conversation about adoption. 

Thanks for listening!

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