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How do you become truly Inclusive? In this episode we discuss our own personal struggle with how what others identify as seem to challenge how we identify. While we agree that we shouldn’t feel threatened or challenged the fact remains that true feeling surface when our personal ‘norms’ are challenged. Gender norms and standard language is so deeply ingrained in how we interact with others. Our guest Jen O’Ryan, author of Inclusive AF shares how she became an accidental expert and is now a fierce advocate for LGBTQIA+ inclusion. We talk about some key areas where many hold unconscious bias and how we can personally work to dismantle our own bias to become more inclusive in everyday interactions.

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