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00:00 Podcast and guest introductions for Clem & Alfred:

Together, they have:

· Started and co-owned the Victory Get Fit Club gym in Federal Way, WA---First outdoor bootcamp in Puget sound

· Trained men and women award-winning professional fitness competitors —two pro car

· Produced and hosted their own bodybuilding competitions 4 years (my first time stepping on stage!)

· They are bodybuilding judges

· They run their own podcast and vlog “Unequally Yoked.”

Alfred also:

· Owns the Ra’oof Realty Team (can find him on his Facebook page Alfred Ra’oof Realty)

· Recently at 47 years of age placed 4thin the WORLD at the IPE World Natural Bodybuilding Open Class and 2ndin the Master’s Class for athletes 40+.

Clem is a:

· Personal Trainer-Sound Healing Practitioner

· Certified Self-Care & Empowerment Coach (find out more on her website slayandshine.com)

· Co-president of the Girlfriend’s Success Circle

· Bodybuilding competitor

02:00 Raising mixed-race children in today’s political climate.

07:40 As white people, what should we do right now?

15:20 Effectively speaking out against racism to friends and family.

16:30 “The Talk.”

24:35 Analogy of the houses burning down. “All Houses Matter.”