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In the wake of what has happened in recent events in South Africa, Nick Hail talks with Kiasha Nair (former South African who now lives down under) about the current unrest and looting In South Africa, how colonialism contributed to the corruption and poverty; why there's no such thing as corruption in Jacob Zuma's eye? And rumours that this is an attempted coup by the EFF.  She also speaks about how Australia is dealing with Covid19 and it's economy; they about some South African Indians wanting to apply for refugee status, and the  importance of ensuring  that this does not become a racial issue because it's not. And most importantly  where does South Africa go from here?