Vice President for State and Federal Advocacy at Mental Health America; Debbie Plotnick joins Mequell and Adam on this weeks episode. In addition to sharing her experiences with mental illness from her own family she also discusses policies, funding and programs from the top down so that when mental illness warriors and cheerleaders who love them fight from the bottom up there will be a safe place to land in the middle where the most amount of people can get the education and help that they need.