Welcome to a VERY special episode, Listeners! On today's show, Karen and Katie chat with the amazing Geraldine DeRuiter about her new book If You Can't Take the Heat: Tales of Food, Feminism, and Fury.
The trio start by talking about First Ladies that took over for their ailing husbands and plastic couch covers (call-backs to our last episode!), then go into Geraldine's journey to writing this book (shocking restaurant experiences in Italy, writing about Mario Batali's cinnamon rolls ) and finish by hearing her thoughts on the 2024 election.
Make sure you buy Geraldine's book! https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/720922/if-you-cant-take-the-heat-by-geraldine-deruiter/
Check out her blog about Mario Batali's cinnamon rolls: https://medium.com/@everywhereist/i-made-the-pizza-cinnamon-rolls-from-mario-batalis-sexual-misconduct-apology-letter-ef927659cab6
And her amazing blog The Everywhereist: https://www.everywhereist.com/
