We tried to talk about twin films "Deep Impact" and "Armageddon" but we just couldn't. So instead, we talked about general ideas regarding movies and art, trying hard and still making a bad movie, jam bands, and codpieces. We hope you enjoy! SPOILER ALERT! At about the 32 minute mark we talk about "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and totally give away the ending. Rejoin at 43 minutes.