Today we're sitting down for a second conversation with acclaimed science author John Horgan, to discuss the burning heart of natural inquiry where science, philosophy, and spirituality collide like waves crashing against the jagged rocks of the unknown. We examine the ache of human progress, the way it builds towers of steel but leaves people hungry for hope, connection, and meaning. Through the lens of art, literature, and the stories we collectively shoulder, we seeks a way to stitch together the fabric of our fraying approach to understanding nature. Woven into the dialogue is the struggle with morality, the chaos of postmodern doubt, and the seeds of a gentler, brighter tomorrow. Jump over to any other podcast platform to hear the redacted end of our convo.
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(00:08:39) Progress vs. Moral Progress
(00:15:02) Happiness v. Well-being
(00:26:09) Science and Utopian Purpose
(00:35:06) Work & Meaning
(00:49:42) Literature's Influence on Perception
(01:07:22) Agency and Free Will
(01:16:28) Spirituality, Consciousness, and the Problem of Evil
(01:25:35) The Nature of War
(01:39:11) Ethical Dilemmas in Science
(01:47:19) Moral Complexities
(02:02:33) On Progress and Spirituality
(02:09:31) Cycles of History and Belief
(02:15:13) Start here from YT
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