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Audrey Clare Farley joins the conversation to talk about Evangelicals and their longstanding connection to something called "positive eugenics" (looking at you Dr. Dobson). Dr. Farley wrote an article in Religion and Politics on just this topic. It's surprising, shocking, and, well, interesting, if we're being honest!

We also talk about her recent book The Unfit  Heiress: The tragic life and scandalous sterilization of Ann Cooper Hewitt that puts it all in narrative form!

Check out more of Dr. Audrey Clare Farley's work here!

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Music: Orbach

Art: Phil Nellis