National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 15, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 15 segment, Mark Henkel used his renowned “mathematics example” – that you (as any math student) first learn numbers, then you learn to add, then to multiply and divide, then algebra, then you learn on up to geometry up to trigonometry up to calculus. Mark Henkel compared the same process to learning husband skills, that any man who would be a polygamist would have to learn more, to grow up, and to genuinely care for the women. Mark Henkel concluded, “Those who are demanding ‘one man, one woman’ (OMOW), it’s like those who only know how to multiply and divide are trying to criminalize those who are capable of calculus.” The remaining final part of this interview will be aired in the next coming episode of this podcast.