National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 16, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this last and final Part 16 segment, Mark Henkel ended his point about letting UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to be able to motivate "jerk-men" to be better men for the women to choose. Mark Henkel concluded, "You'll hear the argument, 'Then all the jerk-men are going to go without.' Hey! It's called, American Free Market. Let them grow up and then they'll have a reason to grow up, and then you end up with equilibrium anyway." This episode is the final part of this interview.