National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 5, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 5 segment, the writer asked whether the fight for rights for unrelated consenting adult polygamy was either a religious issue or a civil rights issue. Mark Henkel showed how it is both and matters to both. After providing many powerful soundbites on the issue, Mark Henkel concluded, “Government has no business controlling religious doctrines OR the contractual arrangements of consenting adults.” The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.