Dr. Devon Smith is my best friend of 20+ years, a father, a Jesus follwer, husband, and so much more. He leads in the Santa Monica-Malibu school district as a Coordinator of Learning and Innovation. He and I riff on education terms, the blurred lines between our roles nowadays, sabbath, and why men resist intimate fellowship even as they long for and need it. Join Devon and me, enjoy, then share this episode with those you love.
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