Defunding the police has become a rallying cry of the rekindled Black Lives Matter movement. MMQB reporter Chris Bangert-Drowns spends an hour discussing the past and present of defunding, its impact on local budgets and politics, and how communities can fundamentally reimagine public safety. Featuring the voices of Nicole Lewis, staff writer at The Marshall Project, and Max Rameau, author and organizer with Pan-African Community Action. Originally aired September 16.