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This conversation is with Jess and Glenn, both teachers who have experienced the highs and lows of this profession.

We talk about burnout, losing the love for the classroom and having to make a conscious effort to choose again. The importance of those messy and loud tasks when it comes to building independence and critical and creative thinking in our students.

How the set backs in life have allowed for greater clarity and the way parenthood has changed them both as teachers.

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