What stops white people from speaking up against racial injustice? Too often phrases like "Black Lives Matter" are misunderstood as political slogans, when in reality they are statements of human worth and dignity. In this episode, we talk about the differing lived realities of race for black and white and how for one it's a matter of life or death and for the other it can easily be ignored. Avoiding racial discomfort is part of privilege, and yet those who occupy that place of privilege have the unique ability to bridge a gap that otherwise cannot be crossed. We get candid about dealing with backlash online, letting your guard down and admitting you have racist ideas, and why taking a less frontal approach can be more effective with white people. This is a gritty conversation but one that has to be heard!