I am so delighted to have interviewed the incredible guest, Hari Ziyad in a conversation discussing their new book, abolition, cycles of grief, and their partner, a fellow writer. Hari shares how their book, “Black Boy Out of Time”, is a way of continuing their lineage, building off of their mother’s work and exploring the way time is not linear in regards to healing. Next, we delve into Hari’s frustration with the kinds of conversations that were being had in the world in 2015, and how that led them to start RaceBaitr, a space to have conversations catering towards a world outside of the white gaze. We then embark on a fruitful discussion about abolition, where Hari shares their rejection of the punitive binary ideas surrounding good and bad, instead moving towards a focus on healing rather than punishment. I share my own feelings around abolition rooted in a very personal example, which leads us to a discussion about grief. Make sure to tune in to the end to hear Hari read an excerpt from their book!
Guests Bio:
Hari Ziyad is a screenwriter, the editor-in-chief of RaceBaitr, and the bestselling author of Black Boy Out of Time (Little A, March 1). They are an esteemed 2021 Lambda Literary Fellow, and their writing has been featured in Vanity Fair, Gawker, Out, The Guardian, Huffington Post, Ebony, Mic, Paste Magazine, and AFROPUNK, among other publications.
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