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This is an interview I did with Tony Bleetman.


It follows on nicely from the one that I did with Eric Baskind the other day and adds a professional medical perspective on a lot of restraint related issues.


Some of the main points are time stamped below:


00:23 - Inspectorate issues with the Youth Justice Board over certain physical restraint techniques (similar to the recent CQC issues raised with Eric Baskind); 


01:45 - The basic principles of how to assist an organisation to understand what the challenges are in managing behaviour even before we get to the physical skills required;


03:26 - Providing the skills relevant to the needs of the organisation;


04:18 - The use of pain-compliance techniques and 'blanket-bans' on techniques not being helpful;


05:15 - Tony's introduction to the late great Peter Boatman and the challenge given and what it taught him;


07:29 - Tony's introduction to other industry sectors; 


08:52 - The importance of working with the co-operation of staff and management to address the skills needed and how the system can evolve over time;


09:53 - Why having a rigid and inflexible set of physical skills don't work;


11:26 - The 'open book' approach to helping organisations get what they need;


13:42 - The economic benefits to the organisation in the cost savings and how we saved one organisation 1/2 a million pounds in six months and the other savings in terms of litigation etc;


15:34 - Why are some techniques being taught that shouldn't be taught?;


20:38 - A funny story about a 'shin-kick and a fire extinguisher';


22:53 - The important point about staff being allowed to use reasonable force if and when presented with a situation they couldn't have planned for;


24:53 - Dealing with issues that hadn't be dealt with properly before such as, nasogastric feeding and ligature removal;


26:42 - The George Floyd case and the 'breathing talking fallacy' (as in the Jimmy Mubenga case) and some important facts on positional asphyxia;


32:58 - The three mechanisms of death from pressure to the neck;


34:29 - The belief that when door supervisors (for example) restrain someone on the floor they must hold the restrained person there until the police arrive.