Grab your cup of coffee or tea and listen in to Dr. Bobbi Beale and Dr. Maurie Lung (who is NOT wearing black in this episode) as they chat about a recent conference they attended. We reflect on opportunities for inclusion, micro and macro aggressions, being an ally, when to speak up and when to take a pass, and just the long-term wear and tear of living in a world as chaotic as it is right now for so very many people.