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Jason Littlefield and Erec Smith are the co-founders of EmpowerED Pathways and Free Black Thought. Jason Littlefield is an educator passionate about personal well-being, establishing a society of individuals at peace within themselves and others. Erec Smith is an Associate Professor of Rhetoric at York College of Pennsylvania.  Although he has eclectic scholarly interests, Smith’s primary focus is on the rhetorics of anti-racist activism, theory, and pedagogy. They join Angela to discuss their vision for a more empowering form of anti-racism, and their desire to decrease current human division while increasing personal well-being by bringing awareness to the impact and intent of the emerging ideology dominating our institutions.