In Episode 5 of Season 6 of the Ideology Podcast, Drew and Mick dive deep into the topic of hope and its role in a world that often feels meaningless.
The conversation revolves around the significance of transcendence in an immanent world. Drew shares an experience he had in Hawaii, where he noticed a bulletin board in a small town filled with spiritual practices such as cow cuddling and astrology. He reflects on how people are searching for something transcendent, a meaning beyond the material world, and how this points to the lack of transcendence in modern life.
The episode also examines:
The difference between immanence (the material world we experience daily) and transcendence (the reality beyond what we can know or manipulate).
How, historically, humans have understood and interacted with both transcendence and immanence.
The implications of a world that has increasingly lost transcendence, becoming a closed causal system, and the resulting existential crisis many face today.
The spiritual hunger for something beyond the material world and how this leads people to seek meaning through various practices, even if they seem odd or far-fetched.
Drew and Mick also discuss how the Church can address this deep spiritual hunger by offering a worldview that fully integrates both transcendence and immanence through Jesus Christ, the one who embodies both perfectly.
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Resources referenced:
How Then Shall We Live? by Francis Schaeffer
A Secular Age by Charles Taylor
Barna Group’s latest data on spiritual hunger in the West
Background track (licensed by Musicbed):
Lifetime (Instrumental) by The Dramatics