"You don't have to control your thoughts. You just have to stop letting them control you." - Kary Youman, mental health advocate. In this episode, Marc and Cathey help Kary build upon his TED Talk by formulating repeatable practices that could de-magnitize mental health setbacks. During the discussion, they explore how startling statistics, questioning, and analogies can reframe an idea while encouraging audiences to engage in courageous conversations.