In this episode of It’s About to Go Down!, Marc and Cathey sit down with Alexina Atin Shaber—founder of Luminaries, author, and communications leader—whose work challenges us to rethink leadership, service, and self-discovery. Alexina shares her powerful philosophy that “the mess is in our message.” Rather than running from life’s messes, she invites us to run toward them—not to toxically positivity ourselves out of discomfort, but to treat our mess as an act of service, a fertile ground for growth, and a space for authentic connection. Together, they explore: Why embracing your mess is one of the most courageous acts of leadership; How Alexina’s Compass framework can guide you back to center when life feels chaotic; The power of perspective to shift how we see ourselves and others; and Why co-creation and collaboration can transform not just our work, but our lives. This conversation is equal parts wisdom, warmth, and healing—a must-listen for anyone ready to stop hiding from the hard stuff and start transforming it. To connect with Alexina, go to https://www.alexinashaber.com/luminaries/ignite
