"How long can you go without help before you lose your mind?” - Diane Nathaniel, the founder and executive director of BeatStage3. In this episode, Marc and Cathey talk with Diane about how to improve healthcare by making it a truly collaborative experience beyond just the doctors, nurses, and patients. To build on the idea, they discuss looking at both sides of the research, playing rounds of “the opening line”, and completing the t-chart of logical and emotional appeals. By the end, you will learn what it means to “find your Sue.” https://beatstagethree.org/