Jon talks with his good friend Chris Shelton about whether our work makes a difference. As ever, we touch on many topics, including recovery from authoritarian groups and relationships, and the need to prepare the next generation so that they will not be so easily exploited by gurus, spin-doctors and other malignant narcissists.
links:
The Randy Newman song that mentions Hitler and Stalin is A Few Words in Defense of Our Country - here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0EAwSpTcM4
Bob Newhart – Stop It!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0lr63y4Mw&t=138s
Empathy Quotient test: https://psychology-tools.com/test/empathy-quotient
Jon’s Never Believe a Hypnotist cites tens of Ron Hubbard’s often conflicting statements about hypnosis. A must-read for anyone who has been involved in Scientology. Read it free, here: http://lermanet.org/exit/parsons.html
Arnie Lerma’s Ten Steps Out of Scientology is here: https://lermanet.org/cos/8steps.html Jon does not entirely agree with it (especially the bit about realizing you are an ‘ex-Nazi’), but it is a model that can be varied according to the experience of the reader. Chris and Jon will talk in more detail about the stages of recovery very soon.
