In this episode, we discuss long-distance running, from ultra-marathons to leisure running with two half-hour interviews. Elmer Ferro is an ultra-marathon enthusiast with a personal record of running 70 miles in one go who started running during a sober year. Manuel Trevino is a lover of the outdoors who uses running as a way to clear his head, alongside kayaking and hiking. Thanks for listening to another episode of Extra Points with Mary Orms!