Nat and Nina talk to DeLesslin George-Warren (aka Roo) about food sovereignty, indigi-queer language revitalization and why the heck the Keeper of the Seeds in Mad Max: Fury Road is carrying around a Basil start in a skull. Roo is an artist, researcher, and educator from Catawba Indian Nation whose work ranges from performance to installation art to community education. To follow his projects and find ways to support the work he's doing, you can check out his website at delesslin.com, or follow him on Twitter, @DeLesslin. For more on agriculture and land management among Aboriginal Australian people, check out Dark Emu: Black Seeds, by Bruce Pascoe.