In this episode, we start out talking about Station 11, the 2014 novel by Emily St. John Mandel, and end up talking about Covid, grief, and the transition into a new phase of the pandemic. Nat and Nina are joined by novelist and friend of the show A.E. Osworth in the first half of this episode as they reflect on their year and the ways Station 11 has stuck with all of us through our own experience of a world-wide plague. Find A.E. Osworth's new novel (!!!) We are Watching Eliza Bright, out now from Grand Central Publishing, wherever books and audiobooks are sold.