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You’ve read the books. You’ve taken the course. You’ve listened to the podcasts. So why haven’t you changed?

According to Ryan Gottfredson—author, researcher, and expert in mindset science—it’s because you’ve been developing on the doing side, when real transformation only happens on the being side.

In this deep-dive conversation, Paul and Ryan explore the groundbreaking science of vertical development—what it is, why it matters, and how to actually start living it.

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