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“Creativity is something I value to the highest degree. Music was always something, in my family, that was super big. Like I said, I grew up in church, black church, music is the thing. So I was always doing music, I love music, I listen to music all the time. I love art, too. I can’t draw, I can’t paint, but I appreciate it. What I want to be able to do is give kids the opportunity to cultivate that. For me, what I notice…especially even going here and observing certain things is that even though…nobody is necessarily making anybody do anything. But because of the social norms that we have a lot of people are in mental cages and I feel like I was in a mental cage for awhile, thinking I had to live a certain way. ”Join our host David Chen as we sit down with Trevor Barrant, a senior at Harvard College, for another episode of the Humans of Harvard College Podcast.Hosted by David Chen

Produced by Mira Becker and Chelsea Guo

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Music by Alex Youn