Judith Blackstone speaks with Joanna about about: the natural experience of fundamental consciousness; trauma and the constrictions in our body; the ripening of our humanness; the increasing recognition of the importance of embodiment in contemporary spirituality; opening ourselves to a blend of love, awareness and physical sensation; the spontaneous arising of self-love deep within; “form is emptiness, emptiness is form” describes the permeability of consciousness; the gateway of the central channel; the healing property of fundamental consciousness; a lifetime of embodied exploration; her mysterious healing experience; a breathing meditation in the core of ourselves.