Kindness can turn into cruelty, when a problem is growing existentially because people are throwing money at it. This is what has been going on in Seattle with the homeless crisis. Former addicts can accredit their sobriety to going to jail, losing everything, and hitting rock bottom. Which, then forced them to change their behavior. Putting policies into place that allows addicts free housing, drugs, needles, and food is the worst thing we can do. But there is still hope, our guest today talked about real solutions to help people get sober and live productive meaningful lives. Working together and using solutions that have proven to help people and not hurt them. Ensuring that Seattle, can once again be a safer cleaner place to live.