A Widnesian who played his junior rugby in both Warrington and Widnes and signed pro forms with Wire despite a few other options. Rubbing shoulders with greats of the game gave this man a rugby education like no other. A move to his hometown club came about and then played for Rochdale and Swindon. During the latter stages he prepared for the next chapter by working with tradesmen and picked their brains to hone his own skills.