Using Bell, Book & Candle (1958) as a jump-off point, David & Huey talk about witchcraft, the atom bomb, the seeming reasonableness of the tenets of Satanism, David's inherent prejudice of ageism, how age gaps in relationships can reflect differentials of maturity between genders, how people learn from others' lived experience & the familiarity of parental love, ages of consent in comparison with legal drinking ages around the world, how witchcraft in movies is typically shown as mundane trolling, Huey & David's differing views on the fantasy genre & the dominance of Marvel movies, how Harry Potter is the Mickey Mouse of witchcraft in terms of personality, human's fear of the immense power of nature itself, how creative people are often people who read books, & the circumflex effect.