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This week, Northern Express published a list of 2022's Fascinating People: Northerners You Need to Know. On that list was United States Marine Corps Major General Michael Lehnert (Ret.), who was our guest host for this conversation with author Eric Fair in 2017.

Lehnert was the first to serve as commander of the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, and since leaving the Marine Corps has been one of the loudest voices in favor of closing the base. We thought he would be the perfect person to interview Eric Fair about his book "Consequence: A Memoir," which discusses his time working as a contract interrogator in Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison complex and the things he saw there, including aggressive interrogation techniques including sleep deprivation and stress positions.

In this conversation, Lehnert and Fair discuss Fair's experience as an interrogator and interpreter, his decision to go back to Iraq and "redeem the experience of war" for himself, and about the decision to use "enhanced interrogation" techniques.