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Patrick and Alex talk to the incredible author and human being, SAY Yang! SAY is an engaging speaker on creativity, diversity, and storytelling. Their journey to coming out as non-binary and Queer in their late 30s is nothing short of captivating and inspiring. They’ve delivered talks to global audiences at Grace Hopper Celebration, Cisco, Oracle, Lesbians Who Tech, and Women Who Code. SAY lives in Oakland, California and loves drumming, karaoke, and performing standup comedy.

In their own words...
“I love that my pronouns are both singular and plural because it reminds me every time I hear it that I am never alone. The Divine is with me wherever I go, whoever I’m with, whatever I do. I appreciate the constant reminder.

And, just like Mattie (the main character in my book, The Spineless Porcupine), I now find myself in the wilderness, rediscovering who I truly am and finding community there. I hope you’ll join me on the journey of reclaiming our true selves. The best gift we can give this world is to unapologetically be ourselves and to inhabit the fullness of who we are. See you in the wilderness…”