Hey guys! This episode is slightly different. Not only is it the 2025 season finale it is also featuring Robert Morgan Pearson, my lovely husband, and Pastor Rob Van Ess,a dear friend, one of the first guests on this podcast, and the former minister at my church. They are discussing trans people in the church and the reason this is made into a SwirlTalk episode is because we are all about trans rights. We are about the rights of the people, and it’s only fair that we include them in everything! So have a listen and if you like it, let us know, if you don’t like it let us know and we can’t wait for brand new episodes in 2026 for you guys to enjoy!!!
