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Guys I recorded the podcast at home and the kids were on top form lol!

Berneth Koopman-Kelber hails from a small country in Southern Africa and had to deal with the community pressures of being a man in what we call community standards of masculinity.

Opening up about his journey as a Gay man and how that has shaped the way he has carried himself in his new environment. He found himself once he moved to Johannesburg South Africa. He had to deal with his own Shame because he was not comfortable with the person, he was based on his up bringing.

We need to humanize challenges and not box or label them based on gender, race and sexuality