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This week we got a chance to collaborate on a podcast with another local NM podcast producer and long time elk hunter Joe Giglia of Elk Bros and the Blue Collar Elk Hunting podcast. Joe has been hunting elk (mainly with a bow) for the past 39 years on public land. He has an amazing ability to close the deal and bring home meat for the freezer and has killed bulls 37 of those 39 years using the New Mexico public land draw system. He is also an awesome teacher and has built an online elk academy to share his knowledge. We talk elk hunting, draw systems, and coaching styles to boost success.