In this the last of a series of 4 episodes Jono invites a friend of his Dr. Stephen Rodgers to speak about the cross in 4 reflections. He focusses his thoughts on the healing power of the cross and in this the last of these 4 episodes he speaks of how love and the cross changes everything. You might find it useful to listen to episodes 60, 61 and 62 to set this one in context.
