Barbs is an old friend from a telesales job i had a few years ago so we start off reminiscing on the window industry and he tells us how he got started and then worked his way up to, we also hear his first hand account of being hospitalised with Covid in heartlands hospital and he bravely tells us unfortunate experiences he and his family have been through with the virus and the pandemic in general but its important to stay poitive by trying to keep busy leading to how he found crypto and forex trading and what the future holds.