What does it mean to call something sacred in a world that feels increasingly chaotic?
Emily Austin sits down with writer and theologian Femi Olutade—a Nigerian-American Millennial, husband, father, hip-hop head, and follower of Jesus in the Eastern Orthodox tradition—to wrestle with the idea of holiness. Femi is best known as the lead writer for the acclaimed Dissect Podcast season on Kendrick Lamar’s DAMN. and for his thoughtful essays on spirituality, culture, and history on Medium.
Their conversation starts with a reflection on power, using The Lord of the Rings as a jumping-off point: who should hold the ring, and what happens when they do? From there, Emily and Femi trace the ways holiness has been understood across different traditions—evangelical, charismatic, liturgical, and Orthodox—and how each has shaped their lives. They talk about fasting and Lent as tools for clarity, why the Desert Mothers and Fathers still speak to us today, and what it means to see God’s presence not only in church but also in the ordinary rhythms of life.
In Memphis? Don’t miss Femi’s Barth House Theological Society Fall Lecture: Sacred, Secular, Syncopated: Theology & the Music of Kendrick Lamar on Thursday, November 6, 2025, at 7 p.m. in Memphis. Free tickets are available at tinyurl.com/BHTS2025.
